Interesting LEDs from Cooper Lighting and Commercial Electric

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There are a couple of interesting LED recessed (or sort of recessed!) lighting fixtures that we’ve tested recently that are worth sharing.  I wouldn’t consider either one the CREE-killer (the CREE CR6 is still my head & shoulders above the rest favorite residential LED fixture).  But each might be a workable option in some situations.

First is Cooper Lighting’s ALL-PRO LED.  This product provides another options for “wet” locations, and at a lower price point than the HALO fixture previously reviewed here.  The dimming seems to work.

Cooper Lighting All-Pro LED Fixture

A couple things I don’t like are the 3000K rating which means it’s in the very white (some say blue) color range.  For comparison the CREE CR6 is a much warmer looking 2700K.  The other big downside for me is the 81 “color rendition index” compared to the CREE 90.  A higher number means things look truer to their natural color to the human eye.   At a rated 14.6 watts, it’s very efficient, but not as good as the CREE.

Price wise, this is comparable to the CREE and cheaper than the HALO.  If you need a wet-rated fixture, this is a worthy choice.

Next up is the Commercial Electric Light Disk.  The light quality is similar to the above product at 3000K and a CRI of 80.  OK, but not on par with the CREE CR6.  However, it does have two big advantages going for it.  It is brighter that either the CREE or the Cooper products.  Not hugely so, but brighter.  Commercial Electric  LED Disk Light

And the big feature in it’s flexibility is the ability to fix in either 5″ or 6″ cans or, uniquely surface mounted right on a 4″ junction box–a surface mounted fixture with a recessed light look.  There might be some very useful applications for this, from closets to simple retrofits would you want a sleeker modern look to replace a clunky looking surface fixture. 

We’ll keep evaluating and reviewing as the technology evolves, and we’ll keep you posted on anything interesting.

Cheers,
Mike

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2 Responses to “Interesting LEDs from Cooper Lighting and Commercial Electric”

  1. Sam Says:

    Mike, I bought both the cree and the commercial electric led recessed lights. I was attracted to the Commercial electric one because of not needing the recessed can and I would like to install the 4″ junction boxes in my new ceiling after it’s sheet rocked which is much easier than cutting hole and hoping they line up with the boxes and it’s the cheaper way to go. I had so much trouble fitting the components in the box that I don’t think it’s worth it. With the lights side by side I don’t see the color difference and both were marked 3000k. I also found the cree not as glaring as it is a true recessed light. I used my camera to test the light output directly below and centered between the lights and found the cree brighter, 1.7f at 100th of a second to 1.7f at 80th of a second for the other.
    Sam

    • Mike Rogers Says:

      Sam, thanks so much for sharing your experiences. It sounds like you prefer the CREE. I sure do. And you can see what I like about the CREE CR6 in several previous posts, including http://blog.greenhomesamerica.com/2010/12/31/cree-cr6-review-a-bright-spot-in-efficient-lighting/

      In several states in the Northeast, we’re actually able to get the CREE CR6 for less money due to state/utility incentives. However, even without the incentives, the prices are very close, and not enough to steer me away from the CREE in most applications.

      If you’re not a sheetrock wiz, and prefer to cut in the fixtures later, this can still be down with 6″ retrofit cans. In fact, I just installed a couple dozen of the fixtures in my old house this way.

      Regarding the choice of CREE, I prefer the 2700K or “warm” color in residential applications. I agree, the CREE appears to have a lot less glare. In fact, I find it has less so than most incandescent lamps and trims. And I also agree that the CREE seems brighter–brighter not just than the Commercial product, but brighter than similarly rated incandescent fixtures.

      Bottom line–the CREE CR6 is still my favorite residential LED for recessed light applications–by a long shot.

      [And remember, another big concern about recessed lighting, beyond the lamp efficiency, is the air leaks around them, especially in attics. It’s very important to address this!]

      Thanks,
      Mike

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